8th May 2023
Pray (ACts) Read - Mark 10:13-16 (v13 focus) Message Alan Burke When I was a wain there was the general view that children should be seen and not heard. My mum even recalls how some years ago the minister of the church that she was a member of at the time, stoping during the sermon to instruct a parent to take their child out somewhere more appropriate for them because they were a distraction and that this wasn’t for them. Today we pick up with people bringing little children to Jesus to have them touch them. The text isn’t not clear who the people were that were bringing these little children, whether it was their parents, mothers, fathers, brother or sisters. Let’s assume though that it is the parents, we’d envision that would be the case and they were bringing their children. The word here translated as little children means infants, those under the age of two. These little children are being brought to Jesus for him to touch them. It is not because they are being brought because they are unwell like many of the others who were brought to Jesus in Mark’s gospel so Jesus would touch them and heal them, no rather it was for Jesus to bless their children (see for examples Mk 1:41; 3:10; 5:28–31; 6:56; 7:33; 8:22). To give you an idea of the context at the time, it was common among the Jews for children to be brought to great men to have them blessed. The custom comes from Biblical accounts, the likes of how Noah blessing Shem and Japheth (Gen 9:26-27), Issac blessing Jacob and Esau (Gen 27-28:4), Jacob blessing his sons and grandsons Ephraim and Manasseh (Gen 48:13-22 and 49). So here we have people, bringing their children so that they would be blessed by Jesus, they were bringing them to him as would have been custom in the day, there is nothing out of the ordinary, nothing surprising about this and but after what we were told in chapter 9 what is surprising is the response of the disciples to people brining children, for we are told they rebuked them. We don’t know the ins and outs that caused the disciples had rebuked them, it could have been because Jesus was wrecked or that he was being hassled by the Pharisees, while we are not told their intention and while to them it may have been reasonable, what makes it stick out so much is after what Jesus had taught his disciples back in chapter 9. Turn back to Mark 9 and there in v33-37 where the disciples had been making their way to Capernaum along with Jesus but they had been arguing among themselves about who was the greatest. Jesus then teaches them what greatness is and it was a wonderfully intimate scene, with Jesus teaching his disciples, Jesus is seated, and they are gathered round his feet on the floor, listening to the teacher. There were likely a number of other people there not just the disciples. While they are sitting and others looking on, Jesus then gets up, sees someone standing at the side, they have a small child in their arms. Then he sets the child before them, say a year an a half old, who stands there, as there as Jesus looks on, as the disciples and the others look on, and he teaches them, “37 “Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me does not welcome me but the one who sent me.” Do we see the contrast between what Jesus had taught and what the disciples have just done? Do we see the contrast that often takes place between our responses to Children especially when it comes to the worship of God than the teaching of scripture? While at the time children were deemed insignificant, unimportant, of little value but Jesus had used a child in Mark 9 to make his point, a point that obviously passed the disciples by, that God has given dignity to every human being has no matter how young or old, how even the weakest and most insignificant human being must is of worth to God and in the context of chapter 9 must be served in the same way as the greatest is served. They are of value and worth to the Lord our God and should be of value and worth to us not only when they are being quiet. Pray (acTS) Sing WSC Q40 What did God at first reveal to man for the rule of his obedience? The rule which God at first revealed to man for his obedience, was the moral law. (Rom. 2:14–15, Rom. 10:5)
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6th May 2023
Pray (ACts) Read (Matthew 18v21-35) Message (Scott Woodburn) If we follow the Lord's advice (Matthew 18v15-20) and constantly seek restoration and peace in the local fellowship, how many chances do we give to the one who hurts us? Let's imagine someone called John. He was really sorry back in 2005 when he was caught indulging in slanderous gossip. He was really sorry again in 2011 when he tore strips off wee Martha in front of six witnesses. He was really sorry once more when his secret WhatsApp group was discovered in 2021 which unfortunately showed that John had returned to his slanderous ways. When do you or the church run out of patience with John? If such a situation happened in your local church you may have turned against John back in 2005. Others might have given him another chance but walked away back in 2011. Some might have walked with John until 2021 but even they have drifted away. When should we withhold forgiveness and show John the door? Peter asked a similar question saying “Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” (v21). Seven is the number that denotes perfection in the Scriptures. The Lord created in six days and rested on the seventh (Genesis 2v1-3) and the Holy Spirit is described as the seven-fold spirit (Revelation 1v4). Indeed if the number of the enemy is 666 (Revelation 13v18), we see that he always falls short of our Triune God who has always been 777. Therefore we could paraphrase Peter's questions this way "should I forgive my brother a complete number of times? Can I hold a grudge when my brother hurts me the eighth time?" The Lord replied “I do not say to you seven times, but seventy-seven times." (v22). If seven is the perfect number and ten is a number in the Scriptures denoting size and magnitude (Revelation 13v1), Jesus multiplies seven by ten to make seventy and he multiplies again by another seven. My maths isn't great but even I know that seventy times seven equals four hundred and ninety. Therefore can we state that as Christians we must forgive four hundred and ninety times and then we don't need to forgive anymore? Not at all. The Lord's point was that we are to keep on forgiving - our forgiveness should be inexhaustible. To underline this point Jesus taught a parable. A servant owed his master "ten thousand talents" (v24). A talent was a measure of weight, weighing as much as eighty three pounds. Therefore the servant owed his master a massive amount of money. The servant and his whole family were going to be punished but after the servant begged for patience, his master relented and forgave the massive debt (v27). Later the servant went out and found a fellow servant who owed him one hundred denarii (v28). A denarii was a day's wage for a labourer in Roman times and so while one hundred denarii was not a small amount, it in no way compared to ten thousand talents. The servant who had known his master's mercy choked his fellow servant and had him thrown in prison until he could pay his debt of one hundred denarii (v30). When the servant's master heard all that had happened he was outraged saying "You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me. And should not you have had mercy on your fellow servant, as I had mercy on you?" (v32-33). The wicked servant was punished accordingly and thrown into prison (v34). I'm sure you see Christ's point. We are like the wicked servant who have been forgiven much by the Lord, indeed we have been forgiven more than we can ever know. Therefore how dare we withold forgiveness when a brother or sister approaches us seeking mercy. Jesus speaks to our hard hearts and warns "So also my heavenly Father will do to every one of you, if you do not forgive your brother from your heart." (v34). Brothers and sisters, we will all meet individuals like John who keep on wounding us and slandering us and disappointing us. How often should we forgive such people? Jesus says seventy times seven, keep on forgiving, keep on showing mercy, this is our calling. I know this is a hard teaching and it certainly speaks heavily to my bitter heart but it is the way of the cross. "For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you, but if you do not forgive others their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6v14-15) Pray (acTS) Sing WSC Q39 What is the duty which God requireth of man? The duty which God requireth of man, is obedience to his revealed will. 5th May 2023
Pray (ACts) Read - Read - Mark 10:1-12 (focus v6-12) Message Alan Burke Jesus here is being tested by the Pharisees. It all comes down to our hardness of heart, Jesus said as much. As the passage goes on Jesus instead of getting drawn into the debate takes them to where they should have been looking in the first place, he takes them to the scriptures. I wonder though if I’ll get kicked off Facebook again for this one because what Jesus says isn’t too politically correct these days, v6f “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, 8 and the two will become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two, but one. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.” (See Genesis 1:27, 2:24, 5:2, Malachi 2:15) Jesus takes the Pharisees to God’s creation purposes and intention for marriage. God from the beginning ‘made them male and female. As the result of being made like this, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh. The purpose in God’s creation of male and female, was that they would be joined together, 1+1 here equals not 2 but 1. Jesus is conveying how when the male and female, when the man and woman who were once separate join in marriage they are now one, a new union. God’s intention was and has always been the same, it did not change with divorce becoming permissible in the days of Moses (Deut 24) and Jesus says what God has joined let man not separate. What we need to understand for all of us is that marriage was given by God before the fall, before there was sin in the world, there was no need for a provision of divorce, it should always be entered in the knowledge and intention that it is a permeant life long union. Since the fall and our hardness of heart we have always sought to live according to our own desires and not God’s ideal. Part of the problem to why divorce rates have increased so much in the past fifty years is because of the expectations of what marriage is, of how marriage is hard work, how marriage involves sacrifice. The idea popularised by Hollywood is destructive, along with those romantic novels dreaming that the other half would be like that, or watching what you watch on line fantasising that the other half would be like that. So often marriage fails because we have unrealistic expectations, it fails because of our own hardness of heart or the other persons hardness of heart. If you notice the first time where the discussion moves beyond divorce to re-marriage is in v11-12. In this instance Jesus teaches that if anyone divorces and they marry again then they have committed adultery against the person they have divorced. That is with the person whom they have since married. The reason for this is that the divorce and the subsequent marriage was in God’s eyes illegitimate, unlawful according to God’s word and as a result they have committed adultery. Where does this leave us, we might be tempted to conclude that divorce is always wrong and never acceptable, but we need to let Scripture interpret scripture, Jesus words in Matthew’s gospel chapter 5:31-32. For there Jesus adds “marital unfaithfulness”. While divorce was never part of God’s intention for marriage in cases of adultery it is permissible, but not demanded. In 1 Corinthians Paul gives the other grounds for a permissible divorce which is in marriage which deals with desertion from an unbeliever (1 Cor 7:10-16). The problem is we all have an issue, it is called sin, we have a hardness of heart and because of that marriages fail, sadly even among believers marriages fail. Marriage as God intended is where two become one, our hardness of heart, our sinfulness, our failure does not change what it was given to us for. The teaching of the word of God on divorce and the teaching of Jesus is not to hit people over the head with a big stick because of their failure in marriage, and if you have been through divorce please know the words of Jesus in Mark Chapter 3:28, where Jesus said 28 I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. (Mk 3:28), know those words are true, as fallen sinful people who have broken relationships know those words of Jesus, if you have repented and believed then you have been forgiven. Pray (acTS) Sing WSC Q What benefits do believers receive from Christ at the resurrection? At the resurrection, believers being raised up in glory, (1 Cor. 15:43) shall be openly acknowledged and acquitted in the day of judgment, (Matt. 25:23, Matt. 10:32) and made perfectly blessed in the full enjoying of God, (1 John 3:2, 1 Cor. 13:12) to all eternity. (1 Thess. 4:17–18) 4th May 2023
Pray (ACts) Read (Matthew 18v15-20) Message (Scott Woodburn) How should the Christian handle conflict? If only we had an answer to this thorny question! Well...we do. Matthew 18v15-20 is rarely practiced in the Christian church but how united would we be if we took the Lord's teaching seriously? Jesus said if your brother sins against you then you have no grounds to ignore him, gossip about him or write him out of your life completely. Instead you are to go to your brother and tell him his fault privately (v15). In such an instance the accuser is to come with the humility which should always mark the children of Christ. Furthermore the accused should be willing to humbly listen and by the grace of God, the issue will be resolved and the relationship restored (v15b). However if the humble accuser is not listened to then he is to try again with the help of others. Two or three witnesses are to sit down with the accuser and the accused in an attempt to establish the truth (v16). This is the Biblical standard for truth as we see in Deuteronomy 19v15. Indeed in Revelation 11 the church is portrayed as "two witnesses". Many have tried to identify these two witnesses but the simple explanation is that the church is a truthful body, she is the "two witnesses". Once more by the grace of God the situation should result in repentance and restoration. But if the private approach and the support of witnesses has failed, the accuser is to tell the problem to the church (v17). What this looks like in your fellowship may be different from mine but in Presbyterian circles the case should be brought to the elders. Indeed it can go from there to Presbytery and finally to the Judicial Commission. We are not perfect but we believe this structure allows allegations to be heard by various church courts and God willing will result in repentance and restoration. But what if none of this works? Let me stress again that the goal is always repentance and restoration but if the accused will not listen to you, the witnesses or the church then he is to be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector (v17). Christ's disciples would have got this imagery instantly. The unrepentant accused is to be denied fellowship. That's shocking isn't it? We never do this in the modern church but whilst we should never take these decisions lightly, the Lord teaches us how we are to address an unrepentant sinner who refuses to heed any and all correction. When we reach this tragic point is the sinner in question beyond hope? No. By the grace of God and work of the Spirit we trust and pray that the accused will see his error, repent and be restored. However if repentance and restoration never comes, Jesus tells His church that they are to be resolute in the face of wilful rebellion. Some might ask “who do we think we are to make such decisions”? It is a serious question - where does the church get her authority? Jesus tells us that the church derives her authority from heaven itself. Whenever we take seriously the work of conflict resolution seeking the guidance of God, the Lord says whatever decisions we reach on earth shall be “bound in heaven” and whatever we loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven (v18). We are not working to change God’s mind and we are not forcing Him into ratifying an incorrect decision, rather as the church is led by the Holy Spirit, our decisions on such matters will match what has already been decided in glory. When the accused and the accuser come to agree, Jesus says “it will be done for them by my Father in heaven.” (v19). Here is the authority of the church and the seriousness with which we should take the road to restoration. When we disagree there is a path laid out by Jesus which leads to unity. We don’t walk it very much - we’re too proud and too stubborn, but Jesus promises that when we engage with the difficult work of church discipline He is there in the midst of us (v20). Perhaps it is time to take Him at His word? Pray (acTS) Sing WSC Q37 What benefits do believers receive from Christ at death? The souls of believers are, at their death, made perfect in holiness, and do immediately pass into glory; and their bodies, being still united to Christ, do rest in their graves until the resurrection. 3rd May 2023
Pray (ACts) Read - Mark 10:1-12 (focus v3-5) Message Alan Burke Remember where we are, once more the crowds are coming to Jesus, the Pharisees come up to Jesus and the reason why is we are told to “test him”. Then they ask, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” The Pharisees are not there because they want an answer to their question, not really, they already have their minds made up on the matter of divorce and this is a test. What we may miss after all because it is 2023 is how divorce was perceived at the time. There in Jesus’ day were two prevailing views, one was that a man could divorce his wife for ‘for any and every reason’ (this was the question of the pharisees in Mt 19:3) and the other was well more conservative to say the least which meant that divorce was only to be granted for indecency (Deut 24). The more liberal view that a man could divorce his wife for ‘for any and every reason’ was the prevailing view in the day and in a patriarchal society this made women especially vulnerable. Knowing fine well why they had asked the question, to test him and to set him up on a collision course with Herod and seen himself arrested, put in prison or even executed. On the other hand if Jesus had expressed views that differed from that of the Pharisees then they would have used that against him. Jesus in response instead of giving them a direct answer asks them a question; 3 “What did Moses command you?” I love this answer of Jesus, for he simply takes them back to the word of God, he directs them to the place where all their beliefs as well as ours should be founded upon and agreeable to. Sadly I’ve often been in conversations with believers that as soon as you do that it is conversation over. Truth be told it may as well have been because the Pharisees do not answer according to Scripture they answer according to what both liberals and conservative Jews agreed on, that a certificate was to be issued to the woman and she was to be sent away. It’s a half answer at best. The certificate they talk about comes from Deuteronomy 24, where Moses permits divorce. If a husband divorces his wife she is to give her a certificate, it was a law that was a concession because of the hardness of hearts of the people of God, again sin is the issue it always is in divorce. The certificate was required so that the woman could remarry but they have ignored everything else that was said in Deuteronomy 24 because they did not agree on the outworking of that. Today what I want to get you to think of as we close is this, hopefully you will understand the reason for it. How do you learn to drive? How do you learn to bake a cake? How do you learn to build a house? How about to learn all these things we focus on the mistakes of other people, watch hours of YouTube videos of car crashes, taste lots of cake and just judge other peoples, and go look round old abandoned houses that are falling down? Of course you don’t, you start with the basics, focus on them, repeat, repeat, repeat. These Pharisees were focusing on the end not the begging the worst possible outcome, yes some marriages will fail but rather than focusing on the failure the key is to understand the purpose in making marriage work in the first place, to make it a success is what they needed to understand. Jesus in his response then makes it clear the cause of divorce, why it was allowed, it was because of their hardness of heart that Moses wrote the law pertaining to divorce. Just because something is permitted does not mean that it is a sign of approval. Divorce was permitted, it was permissible because of the hardness of the human heart. The reason why divorce was permitted was because of the sinful heart of man, of men and women. Why to marriages fail, why is there a provision in scripture for divorce, well it is down to that hardness of heart, that sin that affects us all. Divorce is but a symptom of our sin. Just because divorce is permissible doesn’t mean that it should be the normal, it should especially among the people of God be abnormal. Pray (acTS) Sing WSC Q 36 What are the benefits which in this life do accompany or flow from justification, adoption, and sanctification? The benefits which in this life do accompany or flow from justification, adoption, and sanctification, are, assurance of God’ s love, peace of conscience, (Rom. 5:1–2,5) joy in the Holy Ghost, (Rom. 14:17) increase of grace, (Prov. 4:18) and perseverance therein to the end. (1 John 5:13, 1 Pet. 1:5) 2nd May 2023
Pray (ACts) Read (Matthew 18v5-14) Message (Scott Woodburn) Northern Ireland is a funny place. It has been saturated with the Gospel for generations, there are churches on every street corner and yet increasingly our society is departing from God's Word. Nevertheless, I never cease to be amazed at how many people still maintain a notion of "going to a better place" or that "the big man upstairs will look after me." Everyone thinks they'll go to heaven but Jesus teaches that in this world there are His children and then everyone else. Jesus has already counselled us that the Christian must have the humility of a little child. The believer is someone who has repented of their sin and put their faith in Christ. In such an individual there can be no room for arrogance or pride. Jesus describes His followers as children and says that anyone who welcomes His children also welcomes Him (v5). The one who welcomes Christ's followers for Christ's sake is blessed indeed. These individuals love the Lord and His people and they seek to ensure that the Gospel is advanced. However there are those who have no regard for Jesus or His "children" and they seek to lead Christ's followers into sin (v6a). The Lord warned that for such an opponent of the Gospel it would be better for them to have a great stone tied around their neck and then thrown into the sea (v6b). Why? Because the day of judgement is coming and those who have opposed Christ and His church will meet with a worst fate than drowning. The world is divided between those called Christ's "children" and those who hate the Lord. The earth is a sinful place full of temptation (v7) and remarkably the Lord stressed that temptations are necessary (v7b). In what way? The Lord is sovereign and uses even temptation to grow up His children in faith and sanctification. Peter would put it this way "now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, so that the tested genuineness of your faith—more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire—may be found to result in praise and glory and honour at the revelation of Jesus Christ." (1 Peter 1v6-7). Temptations and trials prove our faith to be genuine resulting in the praise and glory and honour of Jesus. Nevertheless Jesus pronounces woe upon the one who deliberately brings temptation to His little children (v7c). It is a terrible thing to be an opponent of Christ - such an individual is on the wrong side of history and an enemy of the judge of the universe. Knowing the true nature of this world and the battles we will certainly face, the Lord urges us again (Matthew 5v29-30) to take sin seriously. He reminds us that "if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life crippled or lame than with two hands or two feet to be thrown into the eternal fire. And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into the hell of fire." (v8-9). Jesus isn't calling us to chop off body parts but with strong serious language He pushes us towards mortification which is the putting to death of sin. We would do well to wrestle with the gravity of these verses. Jesus couldn't be clearer that to oppose His children is to oppose Him. Why is He so serious? Two reasons. Firstly, Jesus says that His children are not be despised because their angels see God's face in heaven (v10). Some take this verse to mean that when God's children die their spirit (called an angel) will see God's face. Others suggest that this verse teaches that each Christian has a guardian angel. I think the best interpretation is that angels are ministering spirits sent out for the sake of those who will inherit salvation (Hebrews 1v14). Therefore God's children are not to be despised because God's angels see His face and they work each day to support God's people. If the angels strive for Christ's children then only a fool would oppose them. Secondly, followers of Jesus are not to be despised because God is unwilling for a single Christian to be lost (v14). The Lord is like a man who has one hundred sheep and one of them goes astray (v12). He leaves the ninety-nine and goes in search of the lost one. He then rejoices greatly over the little one once lost and now found (v13). Christ's followers are called His children and they are to be marked by their humility, their faith under temptation and their hatred of sin. Christians are the beloved of the Lord and the one who opposes them opposes Christ. This is serious business and to be heeded by all. Brothers and sisters, may such teaching challenge and assure us in equal measure. To everyone else, repent and believe the Gospel. Pray (acTS) Sing WSC Q35 What is sanctification? Sanctification is the work of God’s free grace, whereby we are renewed in the whole man after the image of God, and are enabled more and more to die unto sin, and live unto righteousness. 1st May 2023
Pray (ACts) Read - Mark 10:1-12 (focus v1-2) Message Alan Burke It’s 2023 and it is about time that the church moved with the times. There is some of you thought you’d never hear those words from me but they are not my words but words that I have heard time and time again. Yes it is 2023 and the human race is as sinful today as it was when I was a wain and don’t give me any nonsense about how things were better then, things were different but the problem remains we are sinful and it was in Jesus day. The reason why I start like this is that as we come to this teaching on divorce it is easy to think that divorce is a modern phenomenon because it is not, while divorce rates have increased hugely since the divorce reform act of 1969 divorce has always been an issue. The reason why is simple and it is revealed when we take a look in the mirror we are confronted with the problem, its not that we have lost our good looks, that there is another grey hair or wrinkle but that we are sinners. This week as we look at this teaching of the word of God I am in no doubt that it will touch on some of your lives, it has the potential to bring back painful memories, bring past hurts to the forefront of your mind, even past sins. I’m also aware that there will be some of you who won’t like this teaching of Jesus and will reject it, but again I warn against that attitude, because if we pick and choose the bits that we like and the bits that we don’t like, then ultimately the word of is worthless to you for you have elevated yourself into the place of God and rejected his truth. Here the teaching of Jesus on divorce may be hard but it is for our best. Once more the crowds are coming to Jesus, the Pharisees come up to Jesus and the reason why is we are told to “test him”. Then they ask, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife?” On one level it seems like a fairly innocuous question, but the answer of Jesus had the potential to be explosive, that would send shockwaves rippling out. The Pharisees are not there because they want an answer to their question, not really, they already have their minds made up on the matter of divorce and this is a test. Depending on how Jesus answered this had the potential to send him on a collision course with Herod, for the Pharisees were hoping that the same end that John saw would come to Jesus. How Jesus answered the question of the Pharisees was critical. What we may miss after all because it is 2023 is how divorce was perceived at the time. There in Jesus’ day were two prevailing views, one was that a man could divorce his wife for ‘for any and every reason’ (this was the question of the pharisees in Mt 19:3) and the other was well more conservative to say the least which meant that divorce was only to be granted for indecency (Deut 24). To give you an idea of what that meant, any and every reason well if the Mrs burnt the toast well that’s grounds for divorce, on the other hand if you took the more conservative view it wouldn’t matter if there was domestic abuse, constant fighting, arguing, divorce was only permissible if there was indecency. Can you guess which view was prominent in Jesus day, I’m going to tell you anyway it was the more liberal view that a man could divorce his wife for ‘for any and every reason’. In a patriarchal society this made women especially vulnerable, divorce in the day was rife and it is the reason why Herod was in such a messed up relationship and when John called him out about it he gets his head chopped off (Mk 6:14-29). The Pharisees with their question were trying to trap Jesus, he could have ended up being on a collision course with Herod and seen himself arrested, put in prison or even executed. On the other hand if Jesus had expressed views that differed from that of the Pharisees then they would have used that against him. We will get into more of this passage as the week goes on but what I want to leave you with is the problem we all have, the issue, it confronts us daily and it’s called sin. We have a hardness of heart and because of that marriages fail, sadly even among believers marriages fail. Marriage as God intended as Jesus reminds us is where two become one, our hardness of heart, our sinfulness, our failure does not change what it was given to us for and God’s ideal. Pray (acTS) Sing WSC Q34 What is adoption? Adoption is an act of God’ s free grace, (1 John 3:1) whereby we are received into the number, and have a right to all the privileges of the sons of God. (John 1:12, Rom. 8:17) |
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